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Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 4:51 pm
by Hambone
AeroVees quitting, thunderstorms, gusty crosswinds. Ugh.

Man, I'm so regretting this whole purchase. Unfortunately, I can't get out of it now, so I need to make the most of it. At this point, UHauling it home seems like the lesser evil. I'll be able to make a more reasonable assessment of the situation when I get there tomorrow.

I really appreciate the comments and experiences!

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 5:57 pm
by Bryan Cotton
There is a lot of negativity here. Just realize that those bad things are not common to every experience.

I think your original plan of flying locally for 2 days to make sure your comfort level is there is good. Then setting off with the approach of waiting out weather. The UHaul solution is always available along the way. An A&P is not required to remove the wings. Would actually be more generally helpful to have either a sonex person or a glider pilot.

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 6:00 pm
by BRS
Bryan,
If he does remove his wings, remind him & me, isn't there an easier sequence like right before left or the other way around when removing/installing.

-brs

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 6:46 pm
by Bryan Cotton
BRS wrote:Bryan,
If he does remove his wings, remind him & me, isn't there an easier sequence like right before left or the other way around when removing/installing.

-brs

There is a Sonex instruction sheet for that. Looks like right wing goes on first. So to disassemble left wing off first.


Edit:
https://www.sonexaircraft.com/instruction-sheets/

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 7:29 pm
by Hambone
Got a bus, two trains, and two planes to get to Pennsylvania. Lots of time (maybe too much!) to formulate a game plan.

I don’t see comments as positive or negative, only informative. And I appreciate them, too.

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2024 10:23 am
by Scott Todd
And for those handful of comments, positive or negative, there are literally hundreds of users out there flying along contently.

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2024 12:48 pm
by bvolcko38
Hambone,
If you haven't already, go to this link and download the instructions for wing removal and installation.
https://www.sonexaircraft.com/instructi ... /#gen-info

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2024 2:12 pm
by daleandee
Scott Todd wrote:And for those handful of comments, positive or negative, there are literally hundreds of users out there flying along contently.


Great information from great sources:

viewtopic.php?f=41&t=6545&hilit=accidents

From the thread:

With the Sonex fleet being larger than ever, and with so many aircraft changing hands, we asked Ron to look at statistics involving Non-Buider Owners, or “NBO’s” both in the Sonex fleet, and in the homebuilt fleet at-large. While Sonex NBO’s are not accounting for more accidents overall in the Sonex fleet, it’s important to note that Sonex NBO’s are more likely to have an accident in the first 10 hours of operating their new aircraft than original builders are during the first 10 hours of the aircraft’s phase I flight testing.


This fact is also confirmed by a NTSB report for experimental aircraft:

https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/safety-stud ... SS1201.pdf

Which comes to this same conclusion (as one of many):

A similarly large proportion of E-AB aircraft accidents occur shortly after being
purchased by a subsequent owner. For example, 14 of the 224 study accidents
during 2011 occurred during the first flight by a new owner of a used E-AB aircraft.


The takeaway is to get familiar with your "new to you" experimental Sonex and get as much transition training as required in order to be able to not only fly it ... but be able to fly it well.

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2024 7:12 pm
by Hambone
So I defied the new-owner odds and survived not just one, but two flights. Engine purred along nicely, landings were OK, so I’ve decided to head out early tomorrow morning. Sleeping in the pilot’s lounge to facilitate an early start,and the seller is kind enough to pick me up from Harrisburg after I drop off my rental car.

It’s a real exercise in logistics and cockpit management packing enough for a week, especially without a cargo area behind the seats. I’ve packed everything into a duffle bag and backpack that will be bungeed together and held in by the seat belts.

Flying with an iPad on one leg and a kneeboard on the other doesn’t leave much room for anything else. And I thought an F-16 cockpit was tight!

Anyway, thanks to everyone for the help so far. I hope to get to the Cottons outside Chicago tomorrow before the front gets there, and we’ll see how the weather develops before progressing further west.

Re: Sonex-A purchase - What to look for

PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2024 8:06 pm
by WaiexB22
I'm glad to hear positive things here after your arrival. Safe travels! Have FUN!